I know you've mentioned in the beggining that you're friends with high-functioning ones, so maybe you could share what they struggle with? My jaw's on the floor. An schizoid may believe they're not jealous but they may also have never been in an scenario where jealously happens, as we have attachment issues. Medication is generally not used to treat schizoid personality disorder itself. You are the second person mentioning that "if you knew what schizoids really think..." that it would be hard. All those people fit SPD description pretty well, but they are well functioning members of society with jobs (and some with romantic relationships even). People with schizoid personality disorder (SPD) are generally not interested in developing close relationships and will actively avoid them. (14) I like being helpful, but I can't always be and many times I'm the one that ends up requiring the help. Individuals diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder can have 'covert' symptoms. I usually try to be welcoming, but sometimes I don't have the energy to put in the effort or I don't actually want to deal with anyone at that moment. I hate kids, too lazy to be reliable, may or may not be detail oriented at the time, too lazy and ugly to be unfaithful, may or may not handle emergencies well (depends on what it is), no-drama breakups TRUE, I would electrify my house to keep people away if I could, I value few people, I say what I think because I have no filter, I can complain about anything and probably will, I'm an emotional/fear of poverty hoarder, yes you can be crazy all you want just don't make me leave my house, jealous a little but not likely to fret so TRUE, helpful if I don't have to move too much, and TRUE I'll give you all the space you need and more. You'll never be sure about that with an schizoid, we think pretty much all the time so there's always thoughts of all kinds going on. Infrequent participation in activities for fun or pleasure 4. I am a chronic pile organizer and I like things, but I am easy to get along with. People with schizoid PD … Traci Pedersen. There's a clear difference in their emotion and you can sense it. Say what they think? Just because we don't have anyone else, or aren't interested romantically in anyone else at the time, doesn't mean we can't be unfaithful. Instructions: Below is a list of questions that relate to life experiences common among people who have been diagnosed with Schizoid Personality Disorder. Don't show jealousy (or not jealous) - yes. My whole internal psychic apparatus is not geared to establishing and maintaining social relations. Personally, someone could have a bad car crash right in front of me and I'd be able to go and try to help them out asap while some might be too shocked to react. Schizophrenia occurs, Laing believed when the private self split again (secondary split) due to starvation of real contact. There's also extreme withdrawal, blunt borderline emotionally abusive remarks, no friends, weird vibe, feeling like you are akin to a living room sofa to them at times etc. Everyone (schizoid or not) is encouraged to participate, but we ask that you follow the rules found below. Sure, if I agree to something, I will do it, but if I agreed to it in the first place it is because I made a cost vs benefit decision that landed that way. On this subreddit, we learn about, share, and generally discuss all things relating to SPD. Idk, I'm pretty much a hoarder, but maybe because I have my own place. It might take longer and won't be creative, but it till be bullteproof. Can't agree with that, precisely invading a schizoid's space is something that pisses us off a lot, but it's true that we're very good at hiding it and prioritizing someone else we care about. If the dearth of research on schizoid personality disorder continues, then there is a good chance the DSM-5 proposal will get realized, and schizoid personality disorder will be removed. I wouldn't call it SPD, I'd call them schizoid traits, the "D" in SPD is literally the word "disorder", which implies distress and impaired functioning. Schizoids who engage in romantic relationships can often be "serial monogamists," since it allows them the opportunity to have short-term intimate engagements without the intimacy part. Has anyone experienced this? Probably because they have nothing better to do as well :). Experts say it's because of poor self-boundaries and the so-called "Master/Slave" dynamic. Then again, I grew up in an area that's prone to natural disasters, so maybe I'm just immune to panicking. Maybe I will think, "Hey, remember X, X was cool" and send them a message if they're contactable, but otherwise, out of sight, out of mind most of the time. Actually being crazy might get you different results though. Value you - If you only contact them once every few months they'll greatly appreciate you taking them out of their rhythm for a bit. I am detail oriented but when I inolve others in some perfectionsim I have, I make them miserable and sometimes they forfeit what they were desiring because I may tell them it's no good if it's not done in the best of fashions. Schizoid personality disorder (often abbreviated as SPD or SzPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency toward a solitary or sheltered lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, detachment and apathy. No, it's just an effective way to avoid adults. Fair enough, though again I can't speak from experience on this one. Faithfull? I currently don't have any friends, and I wouldn't say I valued the ones I used to have. Emergency wise, the majority of us should be pretty good since we're really affected by the panic and hysteria that tends to come with emergencies. Don't make you feel unwelcome? I've observed that people take a lot of liberties that I couldn't fathom taking, and it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth after awhile. I'll grant that I might be viewing this through the lens of my own experiences a bit too much, since I have been this friend before, and it really sucks (especially since there was never any hint of reciprocity on their part). Schizoid personality disorder (often abbreviated as SPD or SzPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency toward a solitary or sheltered lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, detachment and apathy. If an schizoid told you what they think for real you'd have to get a weekend off. Only my husband hinted that he thinks that something is off with him and he was asking me about PTSD, probably considering that it might be something that he has. I don't make friends: not simply because I don't make an effort to make friends. Press J to jump to the feed. I could sustain those relationships because I myself come from the avoidant attachment background, but most of them stopped working once I went to therapy. Can handle emergencies - No clue, emergencies rarely happen. You're just describing being 'a good person', or 'a friend', and... you don't need to be schizoid for that. It's why they like spontaneous creative partners and friends more, they keep them entertained. I've always felt like I was an alien, just completely differently wired in so many ways compared to the rest of the population. Anguish. To the point it's futile to even attempt abstractions. Count me out, but I'm glad things are going well for you. Schizoid personality disorder is characterized by an extreme lack of interest in social activities and a simultaneous state of emotional apathy. A preoccupation with introspection and fantasy3 Th… He observes that narcissists are already grandiose and schizoid (detached, cold, aloof, asocial) at an early age (when they are three years old, according to him!). We are not meeting often, but those are actually people I can text with "Hey, how about going to the movie in 1h" they have the highest chance of saying yes. And maybe it won't be informative to him because of our situation even if I'm right. I think you have some misconceptions. The disorder severely impairs my ability to form and maintain relationships. They won't accept it out of politeness and then be miserable and resentful the whole time because they had no guts to align with what they wanted. No is definitely no, but "sure" can be "i'd rather not", too. Somehow they will tag along (if you are their friend and you don't do that too often). (8) "They value you." It's been well observed that schizoids have trouble saying no to people. Welcome to r/Schizoid! Those with the disorder often find comfort in solitary activities and rarely have any social contacts (e.g. No drama divorce/break up - Depends on the circumstances around such break up. Not going to go out of my way to create drama (too much work), but I can be vindictive at times and know how easy it is to verbally hurt people. Can handle emergenciesBest person to have around when you have a fire of other emergency like that. I just want to dissapear from reality. Your schizoid roommate will always make you a cup of tea or go to the pharmacy. ReliableOnce you are considered schizoid's friend, they will take care of you. Having someone around you at all times that constantly expects something of you — time, attention, entertainment. You might not "feel" unwelcome, but you probably are, at least some of the time. No one likes being used, whether they complain vocally about it or not. Maybe my perception is off because it's an emotionally hard time for me. Schizoid personality disorder (often abbreviated as SPD or SzPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency toward a solitary or sheltered lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, detachment and apathy. Yes, I would agree to that. Good with kids - I generally dislike children. I want to list some of the things that I observed in people who I think are schizoids and whom I know relatively well. Yes, I am a Schizoid American. People with schizoid personality disorder typically experience: 1. Remember that a lot of people with SPD are homeless, and homeless people aren't known for their minimalistic tendencies. I've never related with a group of people so hard and quickly in my life before, not even with the ADHD people. I don't care enough about individual people to consider their company special in some way. Schizoid personality disorder is an uncommon condition in which people avoid social activities and consistently shy away from interaction with others. There's a big difference between schizoid friend and a normal friend. This is why I had a bit of a nervous breakdown my first year at college and had to switch schools so I could live at home and commute. There's a wide difference from how people perceive schizoids rather than what they are actually thinking. (9) "Say what they think". (3) Being detail oriented may be the expression of an obsession. No drama divorce/break up? Schizoid personality disorder test is designed to check chances and if you have got high score from this test, then you should seek professional help. If you divorce them, it will likely be very low key (unless the other party wants the drama) and there's a good chance to stay amicable after it if you have kids. I'm curious, can you please elaborate? My schizoid teammate is the one who we can always rely on to reply to this customer request that fell through cracks. Let you be the crazy one - Yes. He also gives the most detailed and thought through answers. They express little interest in intimacy, sexual or otherwise, and endeavor to spend most of their time alone. Languid Schizoid (with depressive features) An individual with the “languid” schizoid subtype tends … Covert schizoids appear to be very social, have an active social life, and can even seem extroverted on the surface. Sure, they can meet you with a happy face, but don't abuse their hospitality. Assuming they care about you a bit more than they care about your living room sofa. Yes, I am crazy to. Don't make you feel unwelcome - Very much disagree here. I think I can handle that :). However, these individuals are basically just putting on a show when they are in public. They feel comfortable and safe around kids and kids love them. A sense of indifference to praise and affirmation, as well as to criticism or rejection 5. Casual is perfect. Problem is that I also get irritated sharing my space with others and the less I am able to be myself, the worse it is. No. I'm a lot tidier than I used to be, but no one would ever mistake me for a neat freak if they saw how I live. Like being helpfulThis comes from the work context. Doesn't mean I am always up for some kind of weird adventure or anything. While the conditions sound similar and share some symptoms, the differences between schizoid and schizotypal personality disorder become evident once a person learns about the diagnostic criteria for each.. People get all emotional and uppity about some things. So maybe some time on the future when the dust settles and if he's open to hear it. My ex-gf and I have even discussed polygamy since we both like girls. On the outside it might seem like nothing is wrong, but on the inside I am losing my damn mind. Schizoid personality disorder is a pattern of indifference to social relationships, with a limited range of emotional expression and experience. Detail-oriented - This is true, though sometimes I am bit too detail-oriented and that can be annoying for myself and others. Posts must be related to Schizoid Personality Disorder, No advertising without moderator permission, Press J to jump to the feed. Say what they think - depends to what capacity they know you know about them. Schizoid personality disorder is characterized by disconnection, emptiness, and strained relationships with others. (10) "Don't complain". If we break up, we may entirely disappear from that person's life, and that's no good either. Depends per person. Let you be the crazy one - I generally like weird people, so that is probably one of those things that just happens. Also, no. Plus, loving someone for what they want to change of themselves can be pretty hurtful, specially if they're trying to change for the better. In laypeople … Don't feel like spending Saturday out or meeting people? Laing, who was sympathetic to Reichian ideas, proposed that the schizoid condition arises from a basic split between a a minimal public self and a private (real) self. We're very good at lying to ourselves in that area, too, where we may struggle to acknowledge what's really helpful for others and we mistake it for what would be helpful for ourselves in our oddity. friends) outside of first-degree relatives. Our external self is different from our inner self - sometimes dramatically so. To some extent this may be how other people see me, but even if all the people you’re observing are actually schizoid you’re making some big assumptions as to their motivations and reasons. No, I don't care for other people problems. Sometimes I get burnt out on helping people altogether, and just pretend I'm not available. (1) May be great with kids as a parent, sure. I'm a lot more calm in an emergency than most people I know. Good with kids - Kids are easier to deal with, but can get very annoying quickly. Anhedonia is a pain, causes schizoids to feel bored very quickly. True, but I'm also plenty creative (I'm an artist). (13) Not jealous. Can handle emergencies - Yeah, I pretty much never freak out over major emergencies. Very interesting perspective. After completing schizoid personality disorder test, you will get result with response sheet. For example, I stopped being in touch with some of my friends because... well, I just felt "dead inside"? Wiki Editor & Literature Enthusiast. You're somewhat correct, though there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding here about the "split" nature of schizoids. Say what they think - While I am probably more honest and blunt than most people, I most definitely censor the stuff that comes out of my mouth. If I did, I suppose they'd still be my friends, wouldn't they? I just dissociate from reality. Good with kidsSchizoid fathers I know love spending time with kids (and sometimes use them as an escape from spending time with adults). Being always available has this as positive for you, but it may be negative for them because time slips through your fingers fast if you don't do anything. But if you need to get some hard labor done - assemble the whole apartment of Ikea furniture, for example - they won't be sighting and saying "ohhh, I'm so tired". They also have a limited range of emotional expression.If you have schizoid personality disorder, you may be seen as a loner or dismissive of others, and you may lack the desire or skill to form close personal relationships. R.D. Although distress and functionality usually go hand in hand from my understanding. Pain. The pressure of you wanting to visit alone can be tiring to the point of inner hatred if repeated too often without reason. Unlikely, imo. The causes and symptoms of SPD are hard to understand, but the path to recovery is welcoming and accessible.Treatment options include approaches to psychotherapy and help clients to patiently orient to personal connections in the ways that are meaningful to them. It feels like 16 years of my life have just all been explained in 1 hour. Like being helpful - I usually don't mind being helpful, though I will quickly get frustrated if someone is dense and/or needs the same things constantly repeated. Or have they ever been the ones that have asked you to meet? Like, I will call 911 for you, but avoid or be heavily annoyed about going to the hospital with you (or visiting you while you are there). Assessing Interpersonal Relationships Evaluate the person’s friendships. Sure, lets stay home and do nothing, zero problems with that. I don't understand. Welcome to r/Schizoid! They're irritating and generally have nothing interesting to say. But at the same time, I don't want to be thrown into a position of responsibility. For other people, probably not unless they explicitly start talking about it. Everyone (schizoid or not) is encouraged to participate, but we ask that you follow the rules found below. Not sure if specifically related to how they see you as a person. Let me know what you think. Best knowledge on what to do in certain scenarios comes from having had a social life, and if you haven't you may not know what you should do in those occasions. Schizoid personality disorder is a mental health disorder effecting someone’s experience of emotions and connection to others. Sure, I am not even interested in a SO that much. Reliable - I go out of my way to avoid asking favors of people for the sole reason that I don't want to feel obligated to return the favor. This will also make the first time jealousy happens a pretty bad time for the schizoid, as normal people get acquianted with that emotion early on in life and learn to deal with it, but an schizoid may only find out they're jealous too late into a friendship or relationship (because they don't really 'speak their mind' as much as you think, yet again). (11) Minimalists. This schizoid personality disorder test reveals if you display any schizoid disorder symptoms or if a person close to you might suffer of such mental condition. Why do they don't complain, though, and is it good for them to not do so? Like someone else said here before, I do what I want.). Little or no desire to form close relationships with others 3. Below the form you can find more information on this and an example message as well. (7) "Don't feel unwelcome". But that's no good, imo. Like being helpful - yes. Don't show jealousy (or not jealous)They probably don't care enough to break into your email/phone, assuming there are no real reasons to be jealous. No, I never say what I think. I don't know how to express that and it started happening after the therapy when I became more in tune with my emotions and my own body. (2) May be reliable, but the schizoid may also burden the other part with being too available for help, as the schizoid may be taking care of others because they don't take care of themselves, and at some point you may not be able to reciprocate that for the friendship to survive. If there's a reason to do something together, it's a sudden excuse to socialize for a short amount of time. Most times, yes, but if there is drama it may be big as we're prone to have some psychotic breaks now and then. Schizoid personality disorder (often abbreviated as SPD or SzPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency toward a solitary or sheltered lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, detachment and apathy. I get why people do it, but I’ll never understand how. While this person usually functions in everyday life, they don’t tend to participate in society, which impacts their experience of life. Let you be the crazy oneYou are always free to plan the craziest of ideas with schizoids. Schizoids enjoy social things they can do in a non-social context. Yes, no drama. Only if I fake it right. I don't care enought. Will also require lots of space. A person with schizoid personality disorder often has difficulty expressing emotions and does so typically in very restricted range, especially when communicating with others. On this subreddit, we learn about, share, and generally discuss all things relating to SPD. Minimalists - depends per person, generally less personal stuff, no photos or iconography. Differentiating between schizoid vs. schizotypal personality disorder can be challenging. I don't. If you need something simple done, they aren't afraid to help. It's a very real component of SPD. Why. Don't make you feel unwelcomeWith "normal" people - sometimes they are happy to see you, and sometimes they are not. Faithful - No. They'll probably won't ask for the rest at all unless you suggest it. Reliable - I don't know about this, I don't know enough people for anyone to rely on me, that might be true for other schizoids too. 3 Minute Schizoid Test Based on the work of Dr. Octav Sorin Candel, Ph.D. Children make me very uncomfortable; I have no idea how to interact with them. This is why I hate whenever my parents ask me about tech stuff. Please read each question carefully, and indicate whether it applies to you or not. With schizoids emotional background is mostly the same so you never feel unwelcome, truly. Didn't like them when I was one myself. Well sure, but I'll be secretly hating you the whole time if you repeatedly take advantage of my nature. Minimalists - I am pretty that, except the tidy part and not having a lot of things. Detail-oriented? That aside, many of these things would heavily rely on the mood, interests and characteristics of a person, regardless of whether they have SPD or not. Cheating? Also I generally will not be disappointed about canceled plans. (Caveat: I'm not high-functioning, so maybe I shouldn't even be answering this, but fuck it. They don't panic and act rationally even during stressful situations. Related Articles. I always develop dread in january-march/april because I know that spring and summer are coming and I've survived it for this long but still it's horrifying and it makes me want to die. Sure, I may be attentive to a friend's needs, but inside I resent the fact that I'll never be on equal footing with them emotionally. I would never cheat on my SO. (15) That might be the most accurate one of all them, because the nature of the schizoid is to distance themselves. Vacation in Uganda and we are leaving tomorrow? A person with this disorder may appear to lack a desire for intimacy, and will avoid close relationships with others. Value youI have a number of schizoid friends and because they don't have many friends themselves, they value those few they have. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Diagnosed. This ain't me at all! But then again, if you're relating closely to someone like that and they enjoy your company, they may have an internal trouble (that you'll never notice, yet again) with not being able to be with you when they want to. Meaning, people with this disorder many not appear to be schizoid on the surface. Yes, to the point it will never reach reality. Personally, I've never joined my past friends in their crazy stuff, but it's true that I can enjoy someone else's tempo and ride along. Value you - I generally like my friends, but I like them in the way that they are people I like doing things with that cannot be done solo or they are genuinely interesting people that are entertaining to be around. (4) In the case of being faithful, you've described already the other side of it, which may happen in the form of overreaction to any other stuff happening. Then again, I don't know any, so that might be part of the reason why. I've never had a roommate, but I'm not a minimalist by any means (I have a ton of art supplies and books). Or maybe things look different from the outside vs the inside. The smell, the temperature, the sounds, hurt so much. But will this parent be emotionally available for the kids, or will the parent imbue the kid with it's own schizoid tendences while doing so? No drama divorce/break upArmies of lawyers, trying to make their ex's life miserable, revenge, nasty surprises - all that is not for schizoids. Note that we are meeting once in X months, so they don't have the chance to feel overwhelmed by me. Like Klein, Kernberg believes that narcissism is a last ditch effort (defence) to halt the emergence of the paranoid-schizoid position described by Klein. What is Schizoid Personality Disorder?, What are traits of Schizoid Personality Disorder?, and other FAQ, Resources to learn about Schizoid Personality Disorder. If you believe your schizoid friends are telling you what they're really thinking, they're either not that schizoid, or they're really good at hiding the fact that they "accept it out of politeness and then be miserable and resentful the whole time because they had no guts to align with what they wanted." Whatever "good" qualities others perceive within me are a facade, since I'm always masking my true feelings. Does not enjoy social or family relationships 7. You say "well functioning in society" which doesn't mark one criteria, but the distress may be hidden. Eye Test Identifies People with Schizophrenia. Let you be the crazy one? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Schizoid personality disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of detachment from social relationships. No drama divorce/break up - Less drama, maybe. Until a few years ago i was a shell of a person and i guess i still am, I ran out of hope of things ever changing/getting better. I mean, all the traits you've described can be part of being a normal person. If someone disappears from my life, I'll definitely remember them (I have more object permanence than some people here seem to), but I'll never be motivated to actually get in contact again. First, I want to start off by saying that I’m not a mental health professional. Sure, but as you argue, is it because they value you, or because they have no value system and everyone is alright? (12) "Let you be the crazy one". Growing up i was always the real fucked up kid that other kids parents were glad that they didnt turn out like me. You have very nice schizoids in your life. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't mean it to sound this way, but some of these come across a bit like you enjoy having easygoing friends you can exploit for free labor. So no, not normal. Imagine being married and having someone rely on you for their emotional (and possibly financial) needs.
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